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Antoine Ruel on ChannelFireball.com a écrit:Ruel Ultimatum – Ask the Pros About Scars

Posted by Antoine Ruel
November 17, 2010


Hi everyone,
I used to win a lot in SOM draft, but lately, every single one has ended up as a nightmare. I started wondering if my format understanding was as good as I thought or if I was just on a bad streak. I strongly believe that sharing thoughts with other players, pros or even casuals, will always bring huge benefits. The first thing that I wanted to check was the pick order, in order to know which cards I overestimated, which ones I underestimated. I came up with the idea of asking many of my top pros buddies their pick order by Color/Rarity, and in case they are Poison, then asked them a few questions as a bonus.

I decided to put the Myrs with their associated color, since the higher they will be rated, the worse the common cards from the given color should be in general. This is a good way of seeing which ones are the best, even if some decks need the 2 mana acceleration more than the others. I also added the in-color artifacts.

The pick situation is first pick, first pack, so the previous picks will not interfere, cards are rated according to their raw power in the format.

7 people answered my questionnaire, and by adding my own thoughts, I can analyze the answers and have a clearer view on my draft leaks, and I hope that it will help you as well. The results will not show the absolute best possible ratings, but I hope that they will be approaching it.

My personal ratings might me a bit different from the others, as I will not play poison unless I first pick a poison rare or a Contagion Clasp. I tried the archetype a few times and always got blasted; the draft really needs to go your way when you go for it, more, if there are 3 poisonous mages on the same draft and/or people like me who hatedraft a lot of them, then your deck usually ends up in a big failure.

The realistic picks are above my own ratings.

My ratings:
5 best blue commons

-1 Silver Myr
-2 Sky-Eel School
-3 Neurok Replica
-4 Flight Spellbomb
-5 Stoic Rebuttal

5 best black commons
-1 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Fume Spitter
-3 Instill Infection
-4 Plague Stinger
-5 Leaden Myr

5 best green commons
-1 Sylvok Replica
-2 Wall of Tanglecord
-3 Molder Beast
-4 Untamed Might
-5 Cystbearer

5 best red commons
-1 Galvanic Blast
-2 Shatter
-3 Turn to Slag
-4 Iron Myr
-5 Panic Spellbomb

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Glint Hawk Idol
-3 Revoke Existence
-4 Origin Spellbomb
-5 Glint Hawk

5 best artifact commons
-1 Perilous Myr
-2 Tumble Magnet
-3 Chrome Steed
-4 Corpse Cur
-5 Ichorclaw Myr

5 best uncommons
-1 Oxidda Scrapmelter
-2 Skinrender
-3 Myrsmith
-4 Arc Trail
-5 Contagion Clasp

5 best rares/mythics
-1 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
-2 Contagion Engine
-3 Molten Tail Masticore
-4 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
-5 Tempered Steel

Top 5 poison commons and uncommons
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Tangle Angler
-3 Plague Stinger
-4 Cystbearer
-5 Corpse Cur

First pick, first pack: Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer? Arc Trail
Most overrated card/underrated card?
Poison in general is overrated, Wall of Tanglecord is underrated.
Play or draw in draft/in sealed?
Play/draw with a good deck, play with a poor one (in order to win as quick as possible).
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? (5 is best, 1 is worst)
At first 5, now 3. The draft part is very nice, but the games come too often on who has the best rares/draws the more active spells.

Guillaume Wafo-Tapa

5 best blue commons
-1 Sky-eel School
-2 Silver Myr
-3 Neurok Replica
-4 Stoic Rebuttal
-5 Flight Spellbomb

5 best black commons
-1 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Instill infection
-3 Plague Stinger
-4 Leaden Myr
-5 Moriok Replica

5 best green commons
-1 Cystbearer
-2 Sylvok Replica
-3 Copper Myr
-4 Tel-Jilad Fallen
-5 Wall of Tanglecord

5 best red commons
-1 Galvanic Blast
-2 Shatter
-3 Turn to Slag
-4 Iron Myr
-5 Vulshok Replica

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Revoke Existence
-3 Gold Myr
-4 Origin Spellbomb
-5 Glint Hawk Idol

5 best artifact commons
-1 Corpse Cur
-2 Ichorclaw Myr
-3 Perilous Myr
-4 Chrome Steed
-5 Accorder’s Shield

5 best uncommon
-1 Skinrender
-2 Oxidda Scrapmelter
-3 Contagion Clasp
-4 Myrsmith
-5 Razor Hippogriff

5 best rare/mythics
-1 Carnifex Demon
-2 Sunblast Angel
-3 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
-4 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
-5 Molten-Tail Masticore

Top 5 poison commons and uncommons
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Corpse Cur
-3 Plague Stinger
-4 Cystbearer
-5 Tangle Angler

First pick, first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer? Arc Trail
Most overrated card/underrated card: Myrs/Stoic Rebuttal
Play or draw in draft/in sealed : draw/draw
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? 5

Guillaume Matignon:

5 best red commons
-1 Galvanic Blast
-2 Shatter
-3 Turn to Slag
-4 Iron Myr
-5 Panic Spellbomb

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Revoke Existence
-3 Glint Hawk Idol
-4 Glint Hawk
-5 Origin Spellbomb

5 best artifact commons
-1 Tumble Magnet
-2 Perilous Myr
-3 Corpse Cur
-4 Chrome Steed
-5 Sylvok Lifestaff

5 best uncommons
-1 Skinrender
-2 Oxidda Scrapmelter
-3 Contagion Clasp
-4 Darksteel Axe
-5 Arc Trail

5 best rares/mythics
-1 Sword of Body and Mind
-2 Sunblast Angel
-3 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
-4 Contagion Engine
-5 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-1 Tangle Angler
-2 Contagion Clasp
-3 Cystbearer
-4 Necropede
-5 Plague Stinger

First pick first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer?
Arc Trail, but Molder Beast over both
Most overrated card/underrated card:
Overrated : the Myrs, Underrated : [card]Molder?
Play or draw in draft/sealed:
Depends of the deck, mostly play if non-metalcraft deck and mostly draw with metalcraft.
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? 3

Gabriel Nassif:

5 best blue commons
-1 Sky-Eel School
-2 Silver Myr
-3 Neurok Replica
-4 Lumengrid Drake
-5 Vedalken Certach

5 best black commons
-1 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Plague Stinger
-3 Leaden Myr
-4 Moriok Replica
-5 Fume Spitter

5 best green commons
-1 Cystbearer
-2 Sylvok Replica
-3 Copper Myr
-4 Tel-Jilad Fallen
-5 Untamed Might

5 best red commons
-1 Galvanic Blast
-2 Shatter
-3 Turn to Slag
-4 Iron Myr
-5 Panic Spellbomb

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Revoke Existence
-3 Glint Hawk Idol
-4 Glint Hawk
-5 Origin Spellbomb

5 best artifact commons
-1 Corpse Cur
-2 Tumble Magnet
-3 Ichorclaw Myr
-4 Perilous Myr
-5 Chrome Steed

5 best uncommons
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Skinrender
-3 Arc Trail
-4 Embersmith
-5 Trigon of Corruption

5 best rares/mythics
-1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
-2 Wurmcoil Engine
-3 Molten-Tail Masticore
-4 Strata Scythe
-5 Contagion Engine

Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Corpse Cur
-3 Plague Stinger
-4 Cystbearer
-5 Carrion Call

First pick first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer? Koth of the Hammer
Play or draw in draft/in sealed:
Play in draft, draw in sealed.
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? (5 is best, 1 is worst) 4.

SHUHEI NAKAMURA:

5 best blue common
-1 Sky-eel School
-2 Neurok Replica
-3 Silver Myr
-4 Neurok Invisimancer
-5 Stoic Rebuttal

5 best black commons
-1 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Plague Stinger
-3 Contagious Nim
-4 Fume Spitter
-5 Instill Infection

5 best green commons
-1 Cystbearer
-2 Sylvok Replica
-3 Tel-Jilad Fallen
-4 Untamed Might
-5 Wall of Tanglecord

5 best red commons
-1 Turn to Slag
-2 Galvanic Blast
-3 Iron Myr
-4 Shatter
-5 Saberclaw Golem

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Revoke Existence
-3 Glint Hawk Idol
-4 Glint Hawk
-5 Kemba’s Skyguard

5 best artifact commons
-1 Ichorclaw Myr
-2 Corpse Cur
-3 Chrome Steed
-4 Tumble Magnet
-5 Snapsail Glider

5 best uncommons
-1 Skinrender
-2 Darksteel Axe
-3 Trigon of Corruption
-4 Oxidda Scrapmelter
-5 Razor Hippogriff

5 best rare/mythics
-1 Molten-Tail Masticore
-2 Contagion Engine
-3 Steel Hellkite
-4 Mimic Vat
-5 Hoard-Smelter Dragon

Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Cystbearer
-3 Tangle Angler
-4 Plague Stinger
-5 Ichorclaw Myr

First pick first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer? Koth of the Hammer
Most overrated card/underrated card:
Auriok Sunchaser is overrated, Trigon of Corruption is underrated.
Play or draw in draft/in sealed:
Play in draft/ probably draw in sealed.
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? (5 is best, 1 is worst) Formerly 2, now 4.

OLIVIER RUEL

5 best blue common
-1 Silver Myr
-2 Sky-Eel School
-3 Stoic Rebuttal
-4 Flight Spellbomb
-5 Scrapdiver Serpent

5 best black common
-1 Plague Stinger
-2 Grasp of Darkness
-3 Contagious Nim
-4 Instill Infection
-5 Fume Spitter

5 best green commons
-1 Cystbearer
-2 Untamed Might
-3 Sylvok Replica
-4 Tel-Jilad Fallen
-5 Molder Beast

5 best red commons
-1 Turn to Slag
-2 Galvanic Blast
-3 Shatter
-4 Iron Myr
-5 Vulshok Replica

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Glint Hawk Idol
-3 Revoke Existence
-4 Gold Myr
-5 Origin Spellbomb

5 best artifact commons
-1 Perilous Myr
-2 Ichorclaw Myr
-3 Chrome Steed
-4 Tumble Magnet
-5 Corpse Cur

5 best uncommon
-1 Oxidda Scrapmelter
-2 Arc Trail
-3 Contagion Clasp
-4 Myrsmith
-5 Skinrender

5 best rares/mythics
-1 Wurmcoil Engine
-2 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
-3 Steel Hellkite
-4 Contagion Engine
-5 Hoard-Smelter Dragon

Top 5 poison common ands uncommon
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Cystbearer
-3 Plague Stinger
-4 Untamed Might
-5 Ichorclaw Myr

First pick first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer ? Koth of the Hammer on MTGO for the tix, Arc Trail otherwise.
Most overrated card/underrated card:
Underrated: any green card that can be used in a non poison deck. Overrated: Blight Mamba, I’ve never really minded facing the card or liked casting it.
Play or draw in draft/in sealed:
Draft: first 90% of the time, second in control mirror
Sealed: about 50-50, first if I’m aggro and/or stable, second if me or my opponent isn’t.
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? (5 is best, 1 is worst)
3 (drafting 3-4, playing 2). It’s pretty deep which makes drafting interesting, but most games are boring and the format lacks a few real removals.

PAULO VITOR DAMO DA ROSA

5 best blue commons
-1 Silver Myr
-2 Sky-Eel School
-3 Neurok Replica
-4 Lumengrid Drake
-5 Flight Spellbomb

5 best black commons
-1 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Plague Stinger
-3 Leaden Myr
-4 Instill Infection
-5 Fume Spitter

5 best green commons
-1 Cystbearer
-2 Sylvok Replica
-3 Copper Myr
-4 Untamed Might
-5 Blight Mamba

5 best red commons
-1 Galvanic Blast
-2 Shatter
-3 Iron Myr
-4 Turn to Slag
-5 Panic Spellbomb

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Revoke Existence
-3 Glint Hawk Idol
-4 Gold Myr
-5 Origin Spellbomb

5 best artifact commons
-1 Chrome Steed
-2 Perilous Myr
-3 Ichorclaw Myr
-4 Corpse Cur
-5 Snapsail Glider

5 best uncommons
-1 Skinrender
-2 Contagion Clasp
-3 Arc Trail
-4 Embersmith
-5 Oxidda Scrapmelter

5 best rare/mythics
-1 Contagion Engine
-2 Molten Tail Masticore
-3 Sunblast Angel
-4 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
-5 Carnifex Demon

Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Tangle Angler
-3 Cystbearer
-4 Plague Stinger
-5 Necropede

First pick first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer? Hmmmm tough. I pick Koth – I think p1 you can build a really aggressive deck and then he is going to be better than Arc Trail, but I couldn’t fault anyone for picking Arc Trail.
Most overrated card/underrated card:
I think Ichor Rats is the most overrated (I think it’s worse than Contagious Nim), and Instill Infection is the most underrated.
Play or draw in draft/in sealed: In general play in draft and draw in sealed
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5? (5 is best, 1 is worst) 3.5

RAPHAEL LEVY

5 best blue common

-1 Sky-Eel School
-2 Silver Myr
-3 Neurok Replica
-4 Flight Spellbomb
-5 Lumengrid Drake

5 best black common
-1 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Instill Infection
-3 Fume Spitter
-4 Leaden Myr
-5 Moriok Replica

5 best green commons
-1 Sylvok Replica
-2 Horizon Spellbomb
-3 Copper Myr
-4 Carapace Forger
-5 Tel-Jilad Fallen

5 best red commons
-1 Galvanic Blast
-2 Shatter
-3 Turn to Slag
-4 Iron Myr
-5 Panic Spellbomb

5 best white commons
-1 Arrest
-2 Revoke Existence
-3 Glint hawk Idol
-4 Origin Spellbomb
-5 Sunspear Shikari

5 best artifact commons
-1 Perilous Myr
-2 Tumble Magnet
-3 Corpse Cur
-4 Snapsail Glider
-5 Chrome Steed

5 best uncommons
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Arc Trail
-3 Volition Reins
-4 Embersmith
-5 Skinrender

5 best rare/mythics
-1 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
-2 Carniflex Demon
-3 Contagion Engine
-4 Tempered Steel
-5 Sunblast Angel

Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Throne of Geth
-3 Ichorclaw Myr
-4 Corpse Cur
-5 Ichor Rats

First pick first pack : Arc Trail or Koth of the Hammer ?
Arc Trail
Most overrated card/underrated card:
Most Overrated: Molten-Tail Masticore
Most Underrated: -
Play or draw in draft/in sealed?
Depends A LOT on your deck.
How much do you like the format from 1 to 5 ? (5 is best, 1 is worst)
Draft: 2
Sealed: 2
Not enough playable cards, packs are dry after a few picks.

ANALYZING THE RESULTS:

Any card that came first will get 5 points, 2nd 4pts, 3rd 3pts, 4th 2 pts and 5th 1pt.

Blue commons:
1st: Sky-Eel School: 37 point /40
2nd: Silver Myr: 34 points
3rd: Neurok Replica: 22 points
4th: Flight Spellbomb: 8 points
5th: Stoic Rebuttal: 7 points
6th: Lumengrid Drake: 5 points
7th: Bonds of Quicksilver, Neurok Invisimancer: 2points
9th: Scrapdiver Serpent, Vedalken Certarch, Disperse 1 point

When a Myr is rated as second best common of a color, you know that you should avoid it as much as you can. It is the only color in which we had to find cards to put in the top 5 rather than eliminating some. 11 cards were named, which proves that the card’s raw power is low. Blue is, by far, the worst color when it comes down to commons, and only good rares or uncommon are supposed to set you up on it early.

Black commons:
1st: Grasp of Darkness: 39 points
2nd: Plague Stinger: 22 points
3rd: Instill Infection: 16 points
4th: Fume Spitter: 15 points
5th: Leaden Myr: 11 points
6th: Contagious Nim: 8 points
7th: Moriok Replica: 5 points

Here, we clearly have 2 schools: the ones who like poison and rated Plague Stinger pretty high and the others, who like the anti-poison cards better as both Fume Spitter and Instill Infection are REALLY good against the archetype. Anyway, Grasp of Darkness managed to get almost 40 points as the best black common by far. Moriok Replica would have been somewhere between 2nd and 4th if it was blue, here, it is not even in the top 5. Black is good when you are poison, but still remains an excellent color if you are not.

Green commons:
1st: Sylvok Replica: 32 points
2nd: Cystbearer: 28 points
3rd: Copper Myr: 12 points
4th: Untamed Might: 11 points
5th: Tel-Jilad Fallen: 10 points
6th: Molder Beast: 9 points
7th: Wall of Tanglecord: 7 points
8th: Horizon Spellbomb: 6 points
9th: Carapace Forger: 2 points
10th: Blight Mamba: 1 point

Again, it was difficult to rate the cards as green is pretty good whether being poison or not. I believe that it is really hard to deal with fatties in the format, and green has a plenty of good ones. It also has cards such as Wall of Tanglecord to survive the early threats while developing. Cystbearer is one of the best poison cards, and deserves such a high ranking. Sylvok Replica is a safe first pick as you can splash it in any deck. Untamed Might, on its side, still seems underrated as a non poison card. I believe that Molder Beast should be higher; Matignon evens pick it over Arc Trail and Koth of the Hammer. That might look a bit extreme, but it is far from being absurd.

Tel-Jilad Fallen is one of the only poison cards that you can afford to play in a normal deck, since it is a very good blocker, and needs only 4 attacks to win a game, which happens a lot in this artifact based format. Blight Mamba got a pretty low rating for a poison card, but it is normal as there are plenty of good playable commons in the color, more, half of the green decks will not pick your cards. Copper Myr is rated third because green is the only color that requires mana acceleration.

Red commons:
1st: Galvanic Blast: 38 points
2nd: Shatter: 29 points
3rd: Turn to Slag: 24 points
4th: Iron Myr: 18 points
5th: Panic Spellbomb: 5 points
6th: Vulshok Replica
7th: Saberclaw Golem

Red might be the most popular color in the drafts, even though it is far from being the best one. It is a tradition in draft, as people first pick removals (here Shatter and Galvanic) and then stay on red, which is normal. But then, too many people draft the color, which only has a very few playables (Panic Spellbomb is rated 5th here!) I guess it is ok with that many artifacts around, but then, people on the other colors get more good stuff.

Olivier and Shuhei both put Turn to Slag first, which is definitely interesting in this equipment field. The card also kills most of the rares you do not want your opponent to untap with or you would auto lose.

White commons:
1st: Arrest 40 points
2nd: Revoke Existence 30 points
3rd: Glint Hawk Idol 23 points
4th: Origin Spellbomb 10 points
5th: Glint Hawk 8 points
6th: Gold Myr 7 points
7th: Kemba’s Skyguard and Sunspear Shikari 1 point

When I started drafting and asked for hints from my friends, most of them told me that white was very deep. It has a lot of playable commons, but some of them, such as Auriok Sunchaser (as Shuhei says) are really overrated. The rating here seems pretty accurate as almost everyone of us picked the same cards in the same order. First, the 2 removal, then artifacts that combine well with the Metalcraft ability. White weenie with equipment does not seem very solid, which explains that the good colored creatures got only 1 point each.

Artifact commons:
1st: Perilous Myr: 28 points
2nd: Corpse Cur: 25 points
3rd: Tumble Magnet: 21 points
4th: Chrome Steed and Ichorclaw Myr: 20 points
6th: Snapsail Glider: 6 points
7th: Accorder’s Shield and Sylvok Lifestaff: 1 point

This rating does not include the mana Myrs, but those probably would not have been rated high. The 5 first cards, Perilous Myr, Corpse Cur, Tumble Magnet and Ichorclaw Myr ended up very close to the others. The 2 poison cards could have been rated higher, but both Oli and I probably underestimate the archetype a bit. I think that Chrome Steed should be behind the 4 others, but following a Mana Myr on turn 3 on the play, it simply wins games.

Uncommons:
1st: Skinrender: 30 points
2nd: Contagion Clasp: 24 points
3rd: Oxidda Scrapmelter: 21 points
4th: Arc Trail: 17 points
5th: Myrsmith: 7 points
6th: Darksteel Axe and Embersmith: 6 points
8th: Trigon of Corruption: 4 points
9th: Volition Reins: 3 points
10th: Razor Hippogriff: 2 points

Skinrender is the only card that everyone named. Besides it, Contagion Clasp, which is good in a normal deck and insane in a poison one gets second. Oxidda Scrapmelter and Arc trail are very good first picks as it is easy to splash a third color in SOM. Myrsmith, Embersmith, Darksteel Axe and Trigon of Corruption are winning cards, but remain a little less good than the top 4. Volition Reins is brutal when it comes down to raw power, but blue in general is too weak to first pick a card that wil require 9 Island in your deck.

Rares/Mythics:
1st: Contagion Engine: 21 points
2nd: Hoard-Smelter Dragon and Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon: 17 points
4th: Molten-Tail Masticore: 16 points
5th: Sunblast Angel: 12 points
6th: Carnifex Demon: 10 points
7th: Wurmcoil Engine: 9 points
8th: Steel Hellkite: 6 points
9th: Tempered Steel: 3 points
10th Mimic Vat and Strata Scythe: 2 points

This rating mostly depends on the few experiences every one of us had playing or facing the cards, and does not totally makes sense, as besides getting a foil one, you will snap pick any of those anyway. Still, opening one of those cards in the last 2 packs is almost an auto color switch.

Poison:
1st: Contagion Clasp: 39 points
2nd: Cystbearer: 20 points
3rd: Tangle Angler and Plague Stinger: 17 points
5th: Corpse Cur: 11 points
6th: Ichorclaw Myr: 5 points
7th: Throne of Geth: 4 points
8th: Necropede: 3 points
9th: Untamed Might: 2 points
10th: Carrion Call and Ichor Rats: 1 point

I would tend to rate Cystbearer, Tangle Angler and Plague Stinger about the same. I did not have much success with the archetype at all, but the rating seems pretty accurate.

Koth of the Hammer or Arc Trail first pick first pack?

I first picked Koth of the Hammer on Magic online over Arc Trail twice, and both times it was ok, but committed me to a heavy Red base when I could have followed the draft flow and maybe ended up splashing the sorcery, which would always have had a better impact on my matches.

In a Pro Tour I believe that I would pick the sorcery, and 4 out of the 7 players I asked the question to agree on this. The 3 others would rather just build an aggressive deck in which Koth of the Hammer is a winning card.

Most overrated cards:
-the Myrs X 2
-Auriok Sunchaser
-Blight Mamba
-Ichor Rats
-Molten Tail Masticore (!!)
-Poison cards in general

Most underrated cards:
-Stoic Rebuttal
-Molder Beast
-green non-poison cards
-Instill Infection
-Wall of Tanglecord

PLAY OR DRAW IN DRAFT/IN SEALED
Everyone agrees that drawing first is good in sealed, and opting for the play is better in draft. Still, Wafo (what a surprise…) draws in draft as well, and Oli and Raph chose according to their deck when they win the die roll. Most of us will adapt our choice to our opponent’s deck on game 2 and 3, and sometimes, in some unusual spots (<10%) (aggro or control decks, estimated bad opponent …) we might chose to draw in draft and play in sealed.

The format got an overall note of 3.4/5. Most of the players like the draft itself a lot, but regret a lack of skill during the games, where the best draw and cards will win most of the time.

I decided to write this article as a tool for the drafters, including me, and would like to thank you for reading it, and Shuhei, Raph, GuillaumeS, Oli, Paulo and Gaby for helping me with this article. As most of my articles, I tried to do something a bit original, please suggest ameliorations on the forums and compare those ratings to yours.

Cheers
Antoine

Source : http://www.channelfireball.com/home/ruel-ultimatum-ask-the-pros-about-scars/


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Re: [Article ChannelFireball] Ask the Pros About Scars / Picks Orders - Antoine Ruel

Message  Joey le Dim 21 Nov - 22:13

Ce qui m'a étonné :

Antoine Ruel
5 best green commons
-2 Wall of Tanglecord
-3 Molder Beast

5 best artifact commons
-1 Perilous Myr
-2 Tumble Magnet

Wafo Tapa
5 best artifact commons
-1 Corpse Cur
-2 Ichorclaw Myr
-3 Perilous Myr
-4 Chrome Steed
-5 Accorder’s Shield
(Accorder’s Shield > Tumble Magnet ??)

Matignon
Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-4 Necropede
-5 Plague Stinger

- Molder Beast > Arc Trail > Koth

Nassif
5 best uncommons
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Skinrender
-3 Arc Trail
-4 Embersmith
-5 Trigon of Corruption
(Pas d'Oxidda Scrapmelter ??)

Nakamura
5 best red commons
-1 Turn to Slag
-2 Galvanic Blast
-3 Iron Myr
-4 Shatter
(FPFP Turn to slag>Galvanic et Iron Myr>Shatter ??)

Olivier Ruel
5 best red commons
-1 Turn to Slag
-2 Galvanic Blast

5 best artifact commons
-1 Perilous Myr
-3 Chrome Steed
-4 Tumble Magnet

Levy
5 best uncommons
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Arc Trail
-3 Volition Reins
-4 Embersmith
-5 Skinrender

Top 5 poison common and uncommon
-1 Contagion Clasp
-2 Throne of Geth
-3 Ichorclaw Myr
-4 Corpse Cur
-5 Ichor Rats
(WTF ??)


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Re: [Article ChannelFireball] Ask the Pros About Scars / Picks Orders - Antoine Ruel

Message  neoatomium le Dim 21 Nov - 23:25

on arrivera toujours à se dire "WTF, il ne prend pas ça ?"
Ce sont des mecs qui sont au-dessus de 2000 en permanence donc tant qu'ils sont cohérents dans leurs choix et leur stratégie je suppose que c'est viable

Il y a juste Matignon qui est vraiment extrême sur Molder Beast > Arc Trail > Koth (il y a toujours eu des extrémistes Razz)

N'empêche ça reste une analyse intéressante (mais ça ne veut pas dire que Nakamura va d'office prendre turn to slag sur galvanic blast et iron myr sur shatter)

edit : voila la raison

Olivier and Shuhei both put Turn to Slag first, which is definitely interesting in this equipment field. The card also kills most of the rares you do not want your opponent to untap with or you would auto lose.
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Re: [Article ChannelFireball] Ask the Pros About Scars / Picks Orders - Antoine Ruel

Message  gilles le Lun 22 Nov - 9:51

Merci Joey pour cet article.

Molder sur arc trail, c'est une finte les gars...
Pour accorders shield sur tangle, c'est clairement un oubli.

Comme toi, je suis surpris de voir la place de tumble magnet et que certains prennent turn to slag sur bolt. Idem pour la 2/3 deathtouch que je pensais clairement derrière la 1/5. je pensais aussi que contagion clasp serait moins haut dans le ranking unco. Ils prennent presque tous ça sur scrapmelter, arc trail, myrsmith, axe, embersmith et trigon.

C'est quand même marrant de voir la variance qu'il y a dans leur choix. Tu m'étonnes qu'entre nous, on n'est jamais d'accord sur un pick order (le seul moment ou on se met d'accord, c'est quand on attend que Vince ou Swap donnent leur avis et qu'on dit tous en coeur: "ouais d'office, c'est clair que c'est le pick" :-)

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Re: [Article ChannelFireball] Ask the Pros About Scars / Picks Orders - Antoine Ruel

Message  Nico Truc le Lun 22 Nov - 9:58

gilles a écrit:Merci Joey pour cet article.

ah ouais d'accord, j'vois l'genre...
quand moi je poste le link vers cet article en mettant en valeur l'importance relative de Molder Beast, tlm s'en cogne (comme le reste du topic btw). mais quand c'est Joey, on le remercie.

PS: c'est vraiment une quiche, Mattignon. c'est arc trail > molder beast > koth obv (en fpfp)
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Re: [Article ChannelFireball] Ask the Pros About Scars / Picks Orders - Antoine Ruel

Message  Swap le Lun 22 Nov - 10:55

Matigion c juste un clown, des qu'il peut faire un truc pour passer pour un original il le fera d'où le molder>Arc
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Re: [Article ChannelFireball] Ask the Pros About Scars / Picks Orders - Antoine Ruel

Message  Swap le Lun 22 Nov - 10:56

gilles a écrit:

C'est quand même marrant de voir la variance qu'il y a dans leur choix. Tu m'étonnes qu'entre nous, on n'est jamais d'accord sur un pick order (le seul moment ou on se met d'accord, c'est quand on attend que Vince ou Swap donnent leur avis et qu'on dit tous en coeur: "ouais d'office, c'est clair que c'est le pick" :-)

C surtout que les gens qui donnent leur avis ici n'ont pas d'argument valable pour défendre leur opinion.
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